{"id":537,"date":"2019-06-29T22:19:53","date_gmt":"2019-06-29T22:19:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/funfacts.104.42.120.246.xip.io\/?page_id=537"},"modified":"2019-12-20T21:55:18","modified_gmt":"2019-12-20T21:55:18","slug":"rational-irrational-power","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/math.hmc.edu\/funfacts\/rational-irrational-power\/","title":{"rendered":"Rational Irrational Power"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>If you raise an\u00a0irrational number\u00a0to a rational power, it is possible to get something rational. For instance, raise Sqrt[2] to the power 2 and you&#8217;ll get 2.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But what happens if you raise an irrational number to an irrational power? Can this ever be rational?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The answer is yes, and we&#8217;ll prove it\u00a0<em>without having to find specific numbers that do the trick<\/em>!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Theorem. There exist irrational numbers A and B so that A<sup>B<\/sup> is rational.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Proof. We know that Sqrt[2] is irrational. So, if A=Sqrt[2] and B=Sqrt[2] satisfy the conclusion of the theorem, then we are done. If they do not, then Sqrt[2]<sup>Sqrt[2]<\/sup>&nbsp;is irrational, so let A be this number. Then, letting B=Sqrt[2], it is easy to verify that A<sup>B<\/sup>=2 which is rational and hence would satisfy the conclusion of the theorem. QED.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This proof is\u00a0<em>non-constructive<\/em>\u00a0because it (amazingly) doesn&#8217;t actually tell us whether Sqrt[2]<sup>Sqrt[2]<\/sup>\u00a0is rational or irrational!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>The&nbsp;Math&nbsp;Behind&nbsp;the&nbsp;Fact:<\/strong><br>Actually, Sqrt[2]<sup>Sqrt[2]<\/sup>&nbsp;can be shown to be irrational, using something called the Gelfond-Schneider Theorem (1934), which says that if A and B are roots of polynomials, and A is not 0 or 1 and B is irrational, then A<sup>B<\/sup>&nbsp;must be irrational (in fact, transcendental).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But you don&#8217;t need Gelfond-Schneider to construct an explicit example, assuming you know\u00a0transcendental\u00a0numbers exist (numbers that are not roots of non-zero polynomials with integer coefficients). Let x be any transcendental and q be any positive rational. Then x<sup>log_x(q)<\/sup>=q so all we have to show is that log_x(q) is irrational. If log_x(q)=a\/b then q=x<sup>a\/b<\/sup>, implying that x<sup>a<\/sup>-q<sup>b<\/sup>=0, contradicting the transcendentality of x.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>How to Cite this Page:<\/strong>&nbsp;<br>Su, Francis E., et al. &#8220;Rational Irrational Power.&#8221;&nbsp;<em>Math Fun Facts<\/em>. &lt;http:\/\/www.math.hmc.edu\/funfacts&gt;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>References<\/strong>:<br>R. Vakil, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/1895997046\/ref=nosim\/mathfunfacts-20\">A Mathematical Mosaic<\/a>, 1996.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Fun Fact suggested by<\/strong>:<br>Ravi Vakil&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you raise an\u00a0irrational number\u00a0to a rational power, it is possible to get something rational. For instance, raise Sqrt[2] to&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"tags":[57,20,7,3,37,156,10,60],"class_list":["post-537","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry","tag-advanced","tag-analysis","tag-calculus","tag-easy","tag-irrational","tag-non-constructive-proof","tag-numtheory","tag-real-analysis"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/math.hmc.edu\/funfacts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/537","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/math.hmc.edu\/funfacts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/math.hmc.edu\/funfacts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/math.hmc.edu\/funfacts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/7"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/math.hmc.edu\/funfacts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=537"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/math.hmc.edu\/funfacts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/537\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1594,"href":"https:\/\/math.hmc.edu\/funfacts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/537\/revisions\/1594"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/math.hmc.edu\/funfacts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=537"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/math.hmc.edu\/funfacts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=537"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}